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JWST reveals its first direct image discovery of an exoplanet

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Hacker News Discussion

Excitement for Direct Exoplanet Imaging and Future Technologies

There's palpable excitement about the possibility of directly imaging exoplanets, especially those that might be Earth-like. The discussion highlights the historical significance such an achievement would represent, comparable to other major scientific breakthroughs.

  • "This is super exciting. It seems possible to one day receive higher resolution images of this type of find." - ryanisnan
  • "The moment we have our first, direct-observation photo of an earth-like exoplanet will be a defining point in our history." - ryanisnan
  • "My fantasy is that at some point we’ll have a sufficiently powerful telescope to cause a galactic “Van Leeuwenhoek moment” where, just like that discoverer of microbes, we will suddenly see the galaxy swarming with spacecraft." - adriand

Solar Gravitational Lensing as a Key Technology

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the concept of solar gravitational lensing as a method to achieve high-resolution exoplanet imaging. Users discuss the mechanics, challenges, and timelines associated with this technology.

  • "That will be done with a solar gravitational lens - there's a recent-ish NASA paper about it. Basically you send your probe to > 550 AU in the opposite direction of your target exoplanet, point it at the Sun and you will get a warped high-res photo of the planet around the Sun. You can then algorithmically decode it into a regular photo." - cryptoz
  • "FYI: Direct Multipixel Imaging and Spectroscopy of an Exoplanet with a Solar Gravity Lens Mission." - sanxiyn (linking to a relevant paper)
  • "I think the transit time is likely decades and the build time is also a long time as well. But in maybe 40-100 years we could have plentiful HD images of 'nearby' exoplanets." - cryptoz

Challenges and Precision in Gravitational Lensing

The practicalities and difficulties of employing solar gravitational lensing are also a major theme. Users identify challenges related to probe positioning, alignment, and the sheer scale of the distances involved.

  • "This is one of those where a missed alignment is going to be a huge bummer. 550AU * arcseconds is a long way off looking not at what you wanted. you wouldn't know until you were at minimum distance which is going to take generations to achieve." - dylan604
  • "an arcsecond at 550AU is "only" 400,125 km. So, in theory, it's correctable in days." - umeshunni (This comment offers a counterpoint on the scale of correction needed)
  • "So presumably they'll be able to take another photograph in a year or two and the planet will have visibly moved? (Jupiter's orbital period around the Sun is about 12 years, but this planet is about 10 times further from the star and has an estimated orbital period of 550 years.)" - rwmj (This question highlights the long timescales and the need to track planetary motion)

Progress in Telescope Technology and Launch Capabilities

There's a discussion about the continuous improvement in telescope technology, with mentions of specific projects and the impact of advances in launch vehicles.

  • "The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is supposed to have even better coronagraph as a technology demonstrator. They keep finding ways to improve on the technology." - pkaye
  • "The JWST is a marvel of engineering. It is also a machine designed around the restrictions of what the most powerful rockets of the 1990's were capable of. Just imagine how capable future telescopes will be now that we have multiple super-heavy launch vehicles with cavernous payload fairings in development." - BitwiseFool
  • "it's hard to commit to building JWST type of payload around a non-yet proven launcher. you'd want to wait until the "in development" becomes proven before planning to launch some decadal planned mission." - dylan604

Geopolitical and Funding Uncertainties for Space Missions

Concerns are raised about the stability of funding for major space projects, particularly in light of political shifts and potential budget cuts affecting crucial instruments like the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope.

  • "If it's allowed to continue, which seems very shakey at the moment. NASA's would from DOGE will result in projects - even mostly completed one - being trashed." - xorbax
  • "In April 2025, the second Trump administration proposed to cut funding for Roman again as part of its FY2026 budget draft. ... On April 25, 2025, the White House Office of Management and Budget announced a plan to cancel dozens of space missions, including the Roman Space Telescope, as part of the cuts." - ceejayoz (quoting a Wikipedia entry)
  • "China is catching up on optics and launch. The torch of civilisation seems unlikely to be lost if we fuck it up that badly." - JumpCrisscross (This highlights a concern about potential loss of leadership in space exploration)

Speculation on Extraterrestrial Life and Civilizations

The possibility of discovering extraterrestrial life, and the profound implications of such a discovery, sparks imaginative speculation among users, ranging from observing artificial lights on other planets to potential intercultural interactions.

  • "How cool would it be to directly image artificial light on the "dark side" of a planet (like all the photos you see of lights on earth at night)?" - timmg
  • "I mean, even if there is life it's like 1 in a gazillion. But you could imagine some ML looking through all of its images to find planets, etc." - timmg
  • "Or imagine another civilization looking at our lights with their telescope" - ripped_britches
  • "And imagine that the only reason, the ONLY reason, they haven’t completely blown us away, is because our planet happens to be one of the very rare planets where the ratio of the size of our moon and earth is in such a way that you can witness a total solar eclipse as a black hole in the sky once a year, and they would like to witness this event someday." - deadbabe (This is a highly imaginative and whimsical scenario)
  • "What if FTL is not possible?... In that case, we might even have the technology to defend ourselves today if we manage to detect the attack in time." - qw (This user explores hypothetical defensive scenarios in the absence of faster-than-light travel)

The Discovery's Visual Presentation and Data

There's a brief discussion about the visual representation of the scientific discovery, including the use of clipart and the sharing of a modified image.

  • "I really liked the image a lot so I emailed the author of the paper to see if she had a version without the clipart, she didn't but said it was fine to remove it, so: [link]" - neom
  • "ge96: The star thing made me think "Who's that planetoid?" edit: but it's the orange thing not the star" - ge96 (This points to a potential initial misinterpretation of the accompanying image.)